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Talkin Bout Guitars / ESP copies Gibson copies ESP?
« Last post by Matt_C on October 08, 2017, 06:03:18 AM »
So back in the day, we had the '84 Gibson Explorer; no scratch plate, and triangular layout controls



Then after a certain James Hetfield signed with ESP, they copied the design, changing the controls layout. This became known as the MX220 shape



A little while later, ESP sharpened the points a little, making them more acute, reduced the headstock size a little, kept the same control layout. This became known as the MX250 shape



Gibson didn't like ESP copying it's Explorer, either the MX220 shape, that was identical to the '84 Gibson shape, or the MX250 shape (which I'm not 100% sure if it's a direct copy of a Gibson, or just something ESP did to make it "more metal"), so they filed a lawsuit against ESP, stopping them from producing any more Explorers that copied Gibson's design.

Roll forward a bit and Gibson reissues it's '84 in original specs - note the correct triangular control layout



They also do an Epiphone version (several of which had already been done, based on the 58's and 76's). It's got the correct MX220/84 shape body, correct black headstock, but what - it's got black hardware, active EMG's, and that control layout looks incredibly familiar. Could it be that Gibson has copied ESP this time round with the Epiphone '84 reissue?



Cheeky Gibson..!

The trouble with this is, whilst the Epi '84 is an awesome looking guitar, for the purist it's a nightmare. If you want the '84 Gibson look of the MX220 shape with the black headstock it's great, but it's not got the right control layout for an '84 Gibson. And if you want an MX220 replica complete with the Hetfield control layout it's great - but it's got the wrong headstock colour (unless you buy a black one of course).

If they'd just stuck to the original '84 control layout, I'd be incredibly tempted to buy one (provided they do a lefty, which I'm not sure they do), as I already have a (lefty) MX250 shape black LTD
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Lefty Guitarist 4um / My lefty ESP (LTD) Explorer
« Last post by Matt_C on September 17, 2017, 07:47:22 PM »
Took me many many years to find one, not least one in this country (UK), but almost ten years ago I finally did. Other than swapping out the Duncan Design pups for a pair of EMGs (81 and a 60, of course) it's as standard as the day it was born. Plays beautifully after a fret dress and a proper set up by guitar store working friend.





It's also almost 8 years to the day that I stupidly did not buy a left handed white '85 Gibson explorer; a genuine Gibson not Epiphone and a genuine '85 not a reissue. I regret not buying that still to this very day.

My life would be complete with that white '85 (or an '84), and another ESP/LTD I could put a diamond plate "cover" on to replicate a JH-2
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Talkin Bout Guitars / Re: cheapest gibson explorer
« Last post by Tomi on September 08, 2017, 03:38:22 AM »
If it's cheap there's probably something wrong with it.
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Buy Sell Trade Explorers / GORDON SMITH EXPLORER..FOR SALE
« Last post by davidsimpson on April 20, 2017, 01:34:26 PM »
GORDON SMITH EXPLORER,HAND MADE BY GORDON SMITH A GREAT GUITAR AND PLAYS AND SOUNDS AWESOME,SADLY NO LONGER HAVE A NEED FOR UT,OPEN TO SENSIBLE OFFER OR SWAP,TREMELO WORKS GREAT
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Buy Sell Trade Explorers / Re: Wanted:Left Handed Gibson Explorer
« Last post by pedalpusher on February 22, 2017, 04:22:30 AM »
I think you can set your profile to get email also when someone posts in one of these forums or if they reply to your post. Left Handed Gibson Explorer are rare these days unless you plan on spending a small fortune. In that case you may as well look at other options unless you are absolutely intent on owning a left handed Gibson.
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Talkin Bout Guitars / Re: Agile Explorers
« Last post by moneydude on February 13, 2017, 04:40:27 AM »
I bought an Agile Explorer guitar from eBay used a few years ago. It looked awesome, it played pretty good for the price. I reverted back to a Gibson Explorer just because it was a Gibson, if you know what I mean. The action on the Agile Explorer was better than you would expect from that price range.

I have to admit, I still have the guitar now, but I rarely play it. Overall good bang for the buck, but it's just not a Gibson Explorer.
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Talkin Bout Guitars / Re: cheapest gibson explorer
« Last post by ax_slinger on June 10, 2016, 08:13:23 AM »
just curious, what is the cheapest gibson explorer model? looking for ideas on my next ax, and gibson explorers are in the running. thanks.

You can find high end Gibson Explorers that are used on eBay and other sites like that. You will get a better guitar for your money. This is the best way to find the cheapest Gibson Explorer. Ste your email notifications on eBay to email you when Explorers are posted.

 So what if it has been used. That's the way I look at it.
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Talkin Bout Guitars / cheapest gibson explorer
« Last post by smiley on May 30, 2016, 07:38:12 AM »
just curious, what is the cheapest gibson explorer model? looking for ideas on my next ax, and gibson explorers are in the running. thanks.
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Talkin Bout Guitars / Agile Explorers
« Last post by quickrick on May 26, 2016, 04:12:24 AM »
Agile Explorers

Any thoughts on Agile Explorers. I've briefly owned an Agile guitar a few years back, but sold it and bought a Gibson. Just wondering about Agile Explorers specifically...
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Talkin Bout Guitars / Re: The Forum for Explorer Owners
« Last post by quickrick on May 26, 2016, 04:09:38 AM »
This is the Forum for Explorer owners. Hopefully we can get the ball rolling here. I know there are other electric guitar forums out there, here, we can focus on the Explorer shape or the Explorer style guitars from any manufacturer.

Hey, hope this Explorer forum gets going too. Great idea.
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